Fathom: In Conversation

Fathom: In Conversation is our economics podcast.

We started with a ten-part series called The rise of China. Each episode features conversations with Fathom’s economists who share unique insights from their research to tell a well-rounded story of China’s past, present and potential future

It’s impossible to understand the global economy without thinking about China. This series explores the country’s political history, its rapid economic development and its impact on the rest of the world. Our aim is to get to the heart of the matter and show how and why the Middle Kingdom is so important to global economics.

In May 2026 we recorded a special episode in which Andrew Harris chats to David Lin from the Special Competitive Studies Project (SCSP) about the future of AI and techno-economic competition between the US and China.